DCIS treatment

met with a consultant today, it was a bit strange, all he said was the DCIS has to be cut out and as there are no lumps this will take a half ball size out of each breast. Other than that he was more interested in reconstructive surgery. He’s proposing a breast reduction to hide the gaps created by the removal of DCIS (although he said there was a 15% chance he would not get the margins) or double mastectomy with implants. I have been given a couple of weeks to decide. I don’t feel I have enough information to decide. I’m more interested in the DCIS and it’s risks, future risks, future treatment of risk than what my breasts will look like. 

So I have been left with two choices, but I think I’d rather have a 3rd i.e. area removed and lived with the gaps for years and if it came back then straight in for double mastectomy, but what are the risks sssociated with that?

im confused.

  • Hello Magpiemaggie,

    I can imagine the meeting with the consultant left you with a lot to think about and you are having to make some difficult decisions now. I hope you will meet other ladies here who have been in a similar situation and that they will be along soon to share their experiences with you.

    We have some detailed information on DCIS treatment on our website which you can access here. You might also be interested in reading this page on breast reconstruction and I hope that all this information will help you make a decision on what is best for you.

    Feel free also to ring our nurses on this free number (if you live in the UK) 0808 800 4040 - their line is open Monday to Friday from 9am to 5pm. With the Easter break, they will be back on Tuesday so don't hesitate to pick up the phone if you want to talk things through with them.

    I hope that someone who has faced similar choices before will be along to talk to you and share their personal stories.

    Best wishes,

    Lucie, Cancer Chat Moderator

     

     

  • Hi Magpiemaggie

    I'm sorry you have joined these ranks. It sounds like the DCIS is in both your breasts from your post.

    I think the very steep learning curve I've had on this trip is that everyone's treatment will be tailored to the stage and size of their lesions.

    If you don't want implants straight away I'm pretty sure you can decline them. You might want to get mire info from your surgeon ad to the amount of shape change you would be left with if you chose this route. 

    The positive thing is that they believe yours is not invasive by the sounds of things so it's been found early. Take one step at a time and speak to your breast care team if you want to explore not having the implants. Has your surgery been scheduled?

  • Hi 

    I was diagnosed with DCIS in one breast last November.

    It felt for me that I had too many choices at first

    option 1:sparing as much skin as possible for immediate reconstruction with pump up saline implant

    option 2 full mastectomy(go flat permanantly)

    option 3 to decide if wanted reconstruction later but would need a skin graft (another major op)

    Option 4. Wide local excision (affected area only removed followed by radiotherapy)

    Felt like my brain was fried with this plus the "*** this is serous" but after two meetings with breast care nurses, a second biopsy(to determine size of area) three appointments with the consultant things became clearer. With help from the team at Doncaster Jasmine Suite and a select female group of friends and family I had opted for the first (I'm 55 and never realised I was so proud and protective of my non ptotics))and fortunately nodes clear so no other treatment required.

    Ask whatfurther treatment you would expect if only having "lump" removed? Would this be a factor in making your decision?

    Your age and breast size is probably a factor in his reduction/reconstruction strategy but ultimately your choice

    Remember.....No question is a daft question. Each person is different in diagnosis, how you deal with it, what appearance can you handle. 

    I was offered viewing of photographs of other patients before and after which reassured me of the end "look" 

    As I'm a E/F cup and my area 68mm I lost quite a bit of skin and nipple but still enough left for a reasonable boob. I've now finished my "pump it up sessions" It will always be a little smaller than than the other and I can live with that. Was offered a reduction in the other to balance if quite different 

    As I said we're all different in our reaction. Call your breast care nurse take advantage of them in the time you've been given to decide.

    Apologies for the length of this reply!!

  • Thanks for the responses, I was unclear about the pathology of my DCIS as I was told they did not grade them. However my GP has managed to get the report and it’s classed as high grade, on both breasts. The areas are a size of a golf ball with each lesion 2-3mm. I have another appointment with the surgeon in 2 weeks time to discuss further. Still not sure whether to opt for lumpectomy + rad or full double mastectomy.

  • Mine was also classed as high. One thing I discovered was that if I opted for mastectomy was that I would have a radioactive injection prior to op and this would trace from breast to nodes, one or two nodes removed during op for testing as this can’t be done after a mastectomy. I know cost (mine and NHS) and inconvenience shouldn’t influence however for me distance, frequency and transport to nearest radiotherapy centre was a factor. Get it out and get it off seemed to be my mantra at the time and i don’t regret it
  • You seem to be very happy with your decision and I’m hoping to get to that stage too. I’m afraid I don,t have the same support you have and I’m a carer so have a few relying on me. I don’t think I could be out of action for long hence why a lumpectomy is appealing to me, rad centre is only a couple of miles from home so no problem getting to it. My fears, I guess, is the possibility of it coming back after treatment. I have not had that conversation yet with the surgeon as he was more concerned how my breasts will look rather than the diagnosis itself. My GP is quite optimistic in that I have no family history with cancer, I am  peri menopausal, I’ve had children etc. 

    I think it will get easier once my decision is made as right now I feel I’m on a roller coaster.

    how long did it take you to recover?

  • It does feel like a rollercoaster but it will settle down. It’s crucial you get your support network in place you’ll need it, not always but it needs to be there when you do. I had op mid December, had a drain in for 5 days, which was awkward and more discomfort from that than incision area. Took 6 painkillers in three weeks. Three days after op didn’t stop me joining colleagues for Christmas afternoon tea for two hours but I was absolutely done in for two days after. Was VERY tired for four weeks, naps essential. Went back to work beginning of Feb but I only do two days now and my job near home now so no long commutes and not physically demanding I had implant check today and had a mini tear time, talking about the real full monty programme with the consultant. It’s like a pressure cooker and you have to release it now and again. Now as my cleavage area a little concave now been given option of either a bigger implant or lipo to plump up or leave so the decisions and ops not ended for me yet. Go back in June to reassess and choose. Again, ask to speak with the Breast Care Nurses at your hospital they really help with talking through options
  • This whole thing is very draining, I spoke to a neighbour who told me she had mastecomy 20 years ago and had no problems since. I am waiting to speak to my mum’s cousin who has had breast cancer twice. I found the breast nurse unhelpful, talking about possible invasive cancer once the surgeon had removed tissue, nipples turning black and falling off etc. I have found very little positivity in this process. I feel anxious all the time and even being physically sick every morning due to nerves. My greatest worry of course is it reaccuring regardless of what surgical option I choose. How do people cope with those kind of thoughts?

  • I'm stunned at how different your experience of a specialist team is from mine. Ask to speak with a different nurse and be armed and ready with your questions so you cover what's important to you. It's hard not to get ahead of yourself, I did and my nurse reined me in. Please only consider what's happening now. Don't waste your mental energy on something that isn't happening and may never happen. I stressed more between surgery and node results than any other time. How daft is this? ... I had a lump removed from the same breast 10 years ago(radial scar tissue removed as a"just in case"). At that point I stressed myself out, planned so far ahead, hymns picked and everything. This time not a flicker just got on with it I'm hope I don't sound too blasé about my decision. Apparently, I take the information out of my brain, lay it on the table, then make my choices using the logic rather than the emotion, a bit like following a flow chart (my husband's description)
  • Oh no magpie Maggie. I'm so sorry that you are struggling with the situation...and apparently the lack of an empathic response from you team...sometimes there are things you are ready to hear and sometimes there are things you just don't need to hear!

    I have invasive breast cancer stage 1 so next step on from yours. The reason I'm telling you this is that DCIS and stage 1 have excellent prognosis. I have my surgery this Friday and if my margins and nodes are clear I will have 15 sessions of radiotherapy and then 5 years hormone therapy. I think your panic and anxiety at the moment is completely understandable. It's all new, all scary and all a bit of a rollercoaster you can't get off. It will settle and there are some fantastic ladies on here who have had bc and completed treatments several years ago, in recent months or like me about to start. Take one day at a time and breath. And like topcat said...if you aren't getting the support you need from your team ask to change. X