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Cannabis oil?

26 Aug 2017 22:49

Hi again.  My dad is currently using manuka honey.  I have also read about cannabis oil.  Has anyone tried this and if so, would they recommend and where can you purchase it from? Many thanks

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27 Aug 2017 23:38 in response to Moderator Steph

Hi thanks for your reply.  No I didn't realise this.  Thanks for your advice.

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28 Aug 2017 10:42 in response to Andrea1974

Hi Andrea,

This question comes up a lot - both Manuka honey and Cannabis oil are pretty controversial, with sceptics saying they are quack remedies and supporters claiming they are miracle cures. Apparently New Zealand (the only place where the Manuka flowers apart from a small number of farms in Australiia) only produces 1,700 tons of Manuka honey a year but globally 10,000 tons are sold, so the chances of buying the genuine unadulterated product are slim. This article looks interesting https://www.attn.com/stories/17739/manuka-honey-another-expensive-miracl...

This recent Huffington Post article about Cannabis oil as a cancer cure is pretty well balanced and gives both sides of that argument http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mary-otte/no-cannabis-is-not-a-cure_b_9292...

I beieve cannabis oil is currently illegal in the UK, but the situation is both complex and evolving and there are some exceptions see http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/legal-mariju...

Best wishes
Dave

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28 Aug 2017 12:32 in response to Andrea1974

When first diagnosed with multiple myeloma, two of my sons, one a staunch supporter of medicinal cannabis oil, went out and got me cannabis oil from two different sources.

I didn't take it for the following reasons.

Note firstly that I have no moral reservations about it.

Being illegal in the UK, the sources must also be illegal. Importantly, this means there is no quality control on the ingredients or any hygeine standards adhered to and the people selling it are in it purely for the money.

Secondly but most important, is the fact that, as I was on chemo at the time, if any progress or regress happened, it would be impossible to tell what was having an effect, the chemo or the cannabis or a combination. This I felt would detract from the medical practitioners' options.

If I were in the end stages of life my response might be different as the anecdotal evidence for pain relief, or at least not caring, is fairly substantial.

 

Regards

Taff

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28 Aug 2017 23:14 in response to Taff

Many thanks Taff for your reply, food for thought.  Kind regards

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28 Aug 2017 23:14 in response to davek

Thanks for your reply Dave.  I will have a read of the articles within your reply.

Kind regards

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29 Aug 2017 22:32 in response to Andrea1974

CBD oil is legal in the UK, the oil that contains THC is illegal. I got CBD oil for my stepdad with pancreatic cancer. He used it for a few weeks while trying to put weight on for chemo but stopped for unknown reasons, I think the cancer scared him so much he wanted to do exactly as the doctors recommended despite only having months left. Frustrating for me as the bottles are not cheap for the best quality and I have 2 unopened black label left in the cupboard.

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29 Aug 2017 23:38 in response to Jones0343

Many thanks for your reply Jones0343.  Kind regards

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3 Sep 2017 23:31 in response to Andrea1974

Hello, I have just joined to let you know that yes you can buy CBD(Hemp) oil in the U.K. Holland and Barrett have it, 10ml for usually £19.99. I buy it for my teen son's depression, he swears by it. Thanks x

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4 Sep 2017 10:25 in response to Andrea1974

Hi all,

It feels like there's a bit of confusion surrounding exactly what is and isn't legal, so Ive asked the team here to help clear things up. They've written a response which is really helpful in getting to the bottom of all this, and explaining the difference between cannabis oil and hemp (or CBD) oil. I hope it's of interest!:

Cannabis oil is not legal in the UK. This is because it contains the mind-altering substance THC. Jones0343 correctly says that hemp (or CBD) oil  is legal in the UK – this is because it has extremely low levels of THC in it so doesn’t have any mind-altering effects. 

Scientists have been working to understand the potential benefits of using molecules found in cannabis (cannabinoids) to treat cancer for a while. We’ve written about the evidence for using cannabinoids to treat cancer extensively in this blog post.

There’s little in the way of evidence to suggest that either cannabis or hemp oil benefits most cancer patients. An early-stage trial we supported testing a drug called Sativex (made from cannabis extract) combined with temozolomide showed that it helped patients with brain tumours that had come back live longer. We’ll need to wait for further, larger trials to be certain of its benefits, and we don’t know if it will help people with other types of cancer.

Although there’s emerging evidence that molecules found in cannabis may one day be used to help people with cancer, we would advise against using black market or home-made preparations of cannabis oil. Not only is it illegal, but because it’s unregulated these products might be contaminated with harmful substances and vary in strength. Taking cannabis could also potentially interfere with other cancer treatments given to you by a doctor, and can carry other side effects and risks.

We hope this information helps.

Best wishes, Cancer Research UK

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4 Sep 2017 11:25 in response to sanphi

Hello and welcome to Cancer Chat, sanphi! 

Hemp, hempseed (or CBD) oil is indeed available to buy in the UK. However, just to avoid any confusion, I've shared a post above to help distinguish between hemp oil and cannabis oil. It explains that cannabis oil is not legal, and gives a bit more background into the research that's been done into both hemp oil and cannabis oil. 

We'd always recommend discussing anything you're thinking of taking with your GP first. 

With warm wishes,

Helen

Cancer Chat Moderator

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1 Oct 2017 14:03 in response to Jones0343
Thanks for this. My husband has an inoperable brain tumour and just finished radiotherapy and starting chemotherapy. I understand cannabis oil containing CBD oil is legal and can be obtained from Amazon and Holland and Barratts - but are they the ones I read about where people say they did them some good? Or are these people talking about the oil that contains the THC? I would be grateful for any advice at the moment as just given some from Amazon (Hofigal 'Hemp Oil' 40 softgels), and I am not sure if this is what people are referring to, or if I should be looking elsewhere?

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3 Oct 2017 10:21 in response to misskelch

Hi missketch, I'm sorry to hear about your husband's diagnosis. 

In terms of your question about Hemp Oil, there’s little in the way of evidence to suggest that either cannabis or hemp oil benefits most cancer patients. An early-stage trial we supported testing a drug called Sativex (made from cannabis extract) combined with temozolomide showed that it helped patients with brain tumours that had come back live longer. We’ll need to wait for further, larger trials to be certain of its benefits, though.

If you'd like to find out more about this particular trial you can read more here. There's also lots of really good information in our blog Cannabinoids for treating cancer?, which is well worth a read. 

Our cancer information nurses are just on the other end of the phone if you have any questions, too: 0808 800 4040 (Mon - Fri, 9am to 5pm). 

Wishing you all the best,

Helen

Cancer Chat Moderator

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3 Nov 2017 22:01 in response to Moderator Helen

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3 Nov 2017 22:53 in response to eholl

Thanks for sharing this article. The problem is that this may have nothing to do with her taking cannabis oil. A small percentage of patients inexplicably go into remission without any sort of therapy.

This medscape article describes this phenomenon. https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/827945

Proving the efficacy of cancer oil in a sample size of one case is impossible. This woman's cancer may have reacted to the cannabis oil (though whether the active ingredients can survive the digestive process is debated) or she may have experienced spontaneous remission. I guess we'll never know for sure.

Best wishes

Dave