A pointless death - quacks and charlatans

This story illustrates why I react so strongly when people ask about Alkaline diets and other forms of quackery sold by charlatans who make millions out of desperate people.

"The father of the alkaline diet, Robert O Young, is hailed as an inspiration by one of the UK's most popular food writers, Natasha Corrett, but he faces a jail sentence for practising medicine without a licence. One patient who believed he could cure her cancer, British Army officer Naima Houder-Mohammed, paid thousands of dollars for his alkaline treatment, which consisted mainly of intravenous infusions of baking soda."

In this case, he wanted $3,000 per day for his quackery - that would add up to over $1m per year for unregulated poison. I sincerely hope that Robert O Young gets found guilty and jailed for the rest of his life.

www.bbc.co.uk/.../magazine-38650739


Best wishes
Dave

  • Thanks for sharing this with us davek, it was a sad but interesting read and I can understand your reaction to this.

    I'm not sure if you've come across this on our blog already but following on from the story above I thought this may be of interest to you.

    Kind Regards, 

    Steph, Cancer Chat Moderator

  • Yup - I'm a regular reader of the science blog :-)

  • In all honesty, Im probably one of those cancer person who are more open-minded to alternative medicines. I mean, there are many medical progress in cancer treatment which once started out as alternative medicines. The theory of Immunotherapy and the use of naturally-occuring food based enzymes as chemo-agents once started out as non-convential treatments. Even the good old fasting, based on some studies, have shown to have positive effects on conventional chemo-protocols. Medicine in general, had benefited from the many "accidental" discoveries (antibiotics, vaccines), ideas which started out with very little science behind it. Also i understand that there must be some reasons why cancer patients subscribed to non-conventional medicines. Maybe their doctors had given up on them, maybe they have personal experiences of misdiagnosis, malpractices or have been expose to some of those so called chemo-horror stories. Some people may not have access to conventional therapies at all. In the end its their decision to make and personally i think we should respect that. To that respect, its all just a matter of standards. Current conventional protocols are still pretty ineffective in curing advance stage cancers, performance-wise. An expensive operation with less than 20% of effectiveness but have a complication of invalidating you for life may sound "quackery" to some people. Similar case for commercially produced drugs that are still on clinical trials. Patients who adhere to them are "technically" subjecting themselves to something that has very little proven science behind it. In that sense we can also qualify them, to some extent, as quackery. I know that the amount of research and study done on conventional medicine are way above and beyond to that of alternative medicine but in the end, both sources of knowledge (conventional and unconventional) will teach us what is the right thing to do and what is the wrong thing to do... and in the process there will always be people who will pay the price of progress and knowledge. Regardless of the results, I think we should all praise the people who had fought and tried very hard to beat the cancers in whatever means they choose to do so. Sorry if I offended anyone, just blurting out my personal opinion.
  • Hi,

    Not at all offended but there is a clear distinction between alternative and complementary medicine used and shared by well-meaning people who don't plan to make a huge profit and fake medicine sold at a massive profit which can and does poison people.

    Some of the drugs we now call chemo are refined versions of chemicals originally extracted from plants and fungi. Who knows, within a few years similar drugs may be developed from cannabis oil or hempseed oil? One thing we can be sure of, injecting people with baking soda in line with mumbo jumbo about changing the pH level of blood will never be adopted because it is based on a false premise. The pH level of our blood is naturally set within very narrow limits and our bodies work hard to keep it within tolerance. Any attempts to change this put strain on our bodies and risk organ failure or death.

    I find anyone who seeks to profit from the desperation of people who have cancer by peddling false hope and fake medicine simply despicable. $1,000 per day for an injection of baking soda which costs a few cents is ludicrous.

    Best wishes

    Dave

     

     

  • Good day Davek, $1000/day for a baking soda if clearly a rip-off any day. Though i dont really know the specific of the procedure that they are using. Maybe they are employing some form of expensive blood dialysis or something that could explain the additional cost. With regards to Alkaline Diet, i just read that the theory behind it is idea that cancer cells dont thrive on an alkaline environment. If that is true, personally, i think its worth exploring. Maybe a controlled alkalosis could actually help on some case, who knows? Medical treatments are always associated with risks and is often accompanied by process that strains the body. Chemo, surgery, and radiotherapy may help a cancer patient or may not or worse may even complicate their situations. Of course the idea is that once with established the effectiveness of a protocol, refinement in the use and dosage should follow. But that takes time and in a well regulated society that regulates their medical practices, a lot of bureaucratic hurdles. I guess some patients think they dont have the time to wait for all of that and just take the risks believing they have nothing to lose either way. Is it a good practice to welcome unproven treatment? I dont know, but i believe that every bits and pieces of experimentations and explorations could help create a bigger picture of understanding. Of course we do that while observing extreme prejudice to scammers and opportunistic con-people.
  • Agh - the theory is wrong and has been disproved by real scientists so many times. No cells thrive in an alkaline environment and the human body regulates the pH between very tight limits, stray outside them and cells die off. This is how they rip people off, using mumbo jumbo mixed with scientific sounding words applied out of context. These people are neither scientists nor medics - which is why they are being prosecuted. In the UK it has been illegal to sell cancer "cures" since 1939. 

    This extract sums the evidence up nicely 

    " Manipulating pH Levels through Diet

    The hype: Based on the scientific observation that cancer cells thrive in an acidic environment — meaning low pH levels — some people contend that highly “acidic” foods such as meat, cheese, and grain products raise the risk of cancer by reducing pH levels in the blood. They claim that eating “alkaline” foods such as fruit, green vegetables, and other plant-based products discourages the growth of cancer cells by raising blood pH levels and tout the benefits of the alkaline diet (also known as the alkaline ash diet or alkaline acid diet).

    The evidence: Cancer cells create an acidic microenvironment due to a high metabolic rate. Cancer cells can’t live in a highly alkaline environment, but neither can healthy cells. Your body works to keep pH levels constant, and changing your diet is not going to substantially change the pH levels of your blood, which are tightly regulated by the kidneys and lungs regardless of foods consumed.

    The pH of bodily fluids, such as saliva and urine, does change temporarily depending on the foods you eat, but that doesn’t affect blood pH levels (or, hence, the environment of cancer cells in the body). In fact, any significant deviation in blood pH levels can cause serious, even life-threatening conditions known as acidosis (low pH) or alkalosis (high pH)

    The verdict: “There is no evidence that changing your diet to alter pH levels affects cancer growth,” Dr. Yeung says. “The actual science has been misinterpreted. Changing the pH in your saliva doesn’t mean your blood pH changes. Some patients try using chemicals to modify their blood pH, but that can be extremely dangerous.” www.mskcc.org/.../truth-behind-three-natural-cures

     

  • Good day Davek. I just recently researching on the topic of Alkaline Diet though so im not familiar about the research involved and the feasibility of the Alkaline Diet. Here is what i discover online though: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/.../ www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/.../ Never really read these papers that much and im not sure if these are properly peer reviewed. But it looks like the referencing is pretty comphrehensive so anyone could easily fact check the statements. As far as i can see there is no discussion about a direct intravenous injection of aklaline agent to the blood stream (which in personal none expert opinion, seems pretty dangerous) in the paper only diet base protocol so these may pertain to a different methodology.
  • Hi,

    You're right, these are reviews about alkaline diets, rather than the use of baking soda as an anti-cancer agent via intravenous infusion which Young is accused of doing. 

    The conclusions of the papers are common sense and the regimes reviewed are at worst harmless. The first conclusion saying basically that the diets examined include increasing the vegetable element of your diet which is good for you and the second saying that the results of the review were inconclusive. 

    Young has been convicted before - this news article from the US gives a summary of the last trial where he was found guilty on two of three counts. www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sdut-criminal-trial-robert-young-ph-miracle-2016feb03-story.html 

    Cheers

    Dave