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Tongue Biopsy. Waiting on results

14 Feb 2019 02:54 in response to clara56

Oh Clara I'm sorry to hear you're now worried about today, apologies for not logging in last night but awful day at work, went to bed early and am now wide awake at silly o clock. 

The same problems will be waiting for me at work today so I won't be able to check in till this evening but you know we are all thinking of you. 

Try not to punch the doctor, you need him on your side!!Laugh

Sending hugs to your daughter too because she is no doubt worried sick as well.


Fingers crossed ( and everything else) 



Tongue Biopsy. Waiting on results

14 Feb 2019 23:16 in response to demc

Hello Ladies hope you are all well.

A bit of a mixed bag today some of which I didnt expect.

I have to have a procedure before surgery a lymphoscintigraphy(hope thats correct spelling). This can`t be done at my hospital so I`m told, so being transferred to the university hospital. So surgery has been arranged for two weeks time with a surgeon I`ve never met.

Consultant keeps looking at me with a strange look,he thinks I`m too calm. Maybe the calm before the storm do you think??

There was a couple of things I forgot to ask him as usual. That annoys me! But saying that he was reading bloods results I`d had done but did`nt share I had to prod him for answers so if you don`t ask you don`t get told.

I didnt get much sleep and was awake before the birds this a.m so I hope to sleep round the clock tonight.

My daughters face today when Dr was hurting my flaming tongue was a picture of tension she was waiting for me to explode,I did`nt though Happy

Oh and yes I have looked up this nuclear surgery hmm I probably should take my own advice and not do that. But when he said radioactive injections I just had to....

Speak soon. xx



Tongue Biopsy. Waiting on results

15 Feb 2019 07:59 in response to clara56

I hadn't heard of the scintigraphy thing either but it seems like a good thing to do, I understand that it identifies the primary lymph node near the affected area and means that surgery is less invasive compared with the traditional lymph node dissection. I have learned such a lot over the past 2 weeks! So I am happy that they are doing this for you, Clara, but again just so sorry that you are in this situation.

Relieved that you managed not to headbutt the Consultant! 

I know what you mean about forgetting to ask things, I think if I need to see a doctor again, I will write down my list of questions and take it with me. 

Sending hugs xx

Tongue Biopsy. Waiting on results

15 Feb 2019 15:20 in response to clara56

Hello clara how are you today...thought about you all day yesterday kept checking this page Im so sorry that the news itsnt good having to transfer to another hospital heart goes out to you clara...shame you didnt let that nasty doctor know how much he hurts you...good job i wasnt there!! with all thats going on why couldnt he be a bit more decent?? From what i read here from kitty it seems a better idea than dissection which i had done which was invasive doesnt help the look of an older womens neck either!! wer all here for you clara between us and the strength of your girls which must be so hard for them also...stay strong our love best wishes xo D.

Tongue Biopsy. Waiting on results

15 Feb 2019 17:22 in response to demc

Hi D

Yes it`s perhaps a good thing he is not doing the surgery he is so heavy handed.

From what little I was told the CT scan they were not 100% about neck nodes so the team decided to err on side of caution and do this further test to look for sentinal nodes. Hmm maybe they are not where they should be. Dont know why I hav`nt had MRI, thats the usual is it not? As far as he said I have to go into hospital on the Wed and have this test then operation on Thurs.He said if test shows up any pos+ nodes the op will incl neck dissection, that in turn will change my TNM so change treatment plan. So its a bit unknown untill then,not ideal.

Well D I am hanging onto your testament that biopsy is worse than glossectomy I will let you know how I find it Happy Consultant drew a picture for my daughters benefit and played it down so very matter of fact as they do. How on earth can he tell how far they need to go for neg margins? I butted in and said that will depend on margins he replied yes very much so.

My younger daughter was so relieved last night that I had agreed to treatment, I told her thats only because of the support and advice on here it has totally turned my thinking around. I think the consultant talking about spread even before any testing had put me in a negative place Sad I am not normally a negative person really.

On my usual witty note..... Perhaps if they do the neck they will do a bit of stretch and tuck at the same time,less skin to staple haha. I won`t be so witty in coming weeks.


Keep well.x

Tongue Biopsy. Waiting on results

15 Feb 2019 20:41 in response to clara56

Hi Clara 

deep breaths keep iff google please. 

Ive had 2 radioactive injections whilst I was having pet ct scans the amount of radioactive serum is minute don’t worry about it yiu are only radioactive for aboutv8 hours keep away from children and pregnant women. 

Dont know about the lymohedocgomy but go with the consultant. My brother in law hasn’t justbhad sentinel nodes  biopsy ungetva general,he was out 4 hour sessions later his is melanoma on forehead not h n c I know  . Don’t panic I wasn’t told at my m f t one of my lymph nodes was in operable near my spine apparently at the back of neck dr Sen said don’t worry about it as radiotherapy will get it so I forgot about it  sometimes we have to trust in the consultant.

Keep kn touch


Tongue Biopsy. Waiting on results

15 Feb 2019 23:12 in response to clara56

  Hi clara good to hear from you, you must be a bag of nerves as must be your daughter too but you will get through this torture..and the sooner the better so many great people on here that are poof that we all have more strength than any of us realise...The couple Radioactive are such an insprieng couple arent they...So you go get that damed cancer by the throat! show it what your made of...its a long road clara but time goes so quick your girls and your family here are right along side you try not to worry you gotta get your sleep rest eat all you can now please stay as strong as you were holding your husbands hand...thats my girl im sure hed say...loads love claraxo        hey clara i asked for a nice pull and tuck the doc laughted said oh dont worry it will be tight!  x

Tongue Biopsy. Waiting on results

16 Feb 2019 00:23 in response to RadioactiveRaz

Hi Hazel good to hear from you.

Solid advice as always! You are a credit to this c chat.

Yes scintigraphy has been used for melanoma and for breast cancer for quite some time I think its use is fairly new for h&n. I wont have to worry about being near anyone as Im an in patient for this I am getting taken in a day before surgery for this.

I cant help myself Ive always been an avid reader and like to be informed. I read over 270 books last year Happy If something gets me curious off I go looking. And of course by forgetting to ask the consultant things I then go off looking for answers myself.

Its quite scary how many people are being diagnosed hubbys brother-in-law has just been diagnosed with h&n too.

Yet I have an older sister whom smokes 3pks a day and other than a filthy chest she is fine.Defies logik.

See and get some tan on those legs while on your bike in Espania.xx

PS. I should say late hubby but cant get used to using that  as far as Im concerned he will always be my hubby. I get so annoyed when im refered to on mail as miz or miss as that is the title for divorced women and never married women. I checked lol

Tongue Biopsy. Waiting on results

16 Feb 2019 00:57 in response to demc

Hi D.

As you can see Im a night hawk always have been. I can lie in the mornings dont have any reason not to.

Im trying to keep nerves in check by not over thinking and keeping occupied. IE: got in from Tesco at 10pm and still had to get myself fed.

This is all getting a bit complicated,my older daughter is waiting to go in for a breast lumpectomy (not cancer but lump has grown alot)she has had her pre op check so is just waiting for a date. Hmm wont be ideal if its same time as me Sad I will not allow her to cancel under any circumstance.

Here is one for the What not to say to a person with cancer! My older sister on learning my diagnosis etc said she is going to visit sister in law that evening, Oh my! this will give us something to talk about tonight!  Geez if I ever get foot in mouth like that shoot me! Is it the adage Im a pensioner I can say whatever I like? It brought back a memory when her husband seen my hubby right after his surgery (it was pretty bad looking) he said my god what a mess your in! I had spent days telling my hubby he still looked the same old same old self.

Sorry Im waffling lol. Maybe time up lol

Speak soon. xx


Tongue Biopsy. Waiting on results

16 Feb 2019 09:05 in response to demc

Hi demc

thank you for your kind words. I just wish this site was easier to type on! The numbs of typo mistakes do my head in Lol  that u make  

I decided that h n c want going to beat me or define me having a wonderful oncologistbrrally heloed he just oozes confidence,even if you meet him in the foyer he makes a beeline of coming over give some me a hug I might not have been due to see him but if he see you he comes over for a chat and nit abiytbcancee it’s usually football or family  it’s the little things that’s why I am in her trying to pass my limited knowledge on  didn’t help this week niw eeffeeed back to local ent  n git bumped at first appointment, but went at ut like a dog with a bike We list nearly an entire year last year and I am getting that feeeybto Spain come hell or Hugh water. Lol

have a good weekend every body 

ps wa th out for an announcement 27 July world head and neck cancer day doing a sponseeed bike ride for my cancee hosoital will be setting uo a just giving page in the wirkds if Tesco every little helps  






Tongue Biopsy. Waiting on results

16 Feb 2019 09:17 in response to clara56

Hi Clara

your late husband is certainly still your hubby and don’t let any ones tell yiu any differently ! yes you are a Mrs as well the Ms does my head in .

i have a sister in law who is just as interfering when my neck was at butbstill worse she kept asking me when was I going to clean it up ummmmmm let me think about it oh Incant !!!!then her friend had breast cancer which is bad but sandra could always eat so she would say to Sandra can eat ,so I shouted one day I dont eat with my boobs !!!!! i eat  with a radiated mouth ! Didn’t shut her up though her hubby just had melanoma off top of head she is scrubbing it to get blood off wonder why he now has an infection in it !

oh well please keep in rouch


h x

Tongue Biopsy. Waiting on results

16 Feb 2019 21:45 in response to RadioactiveRaz

Never thought I'd laugh out loud on this Forum but I just did, Raz! "I don't eat with my boobs" - priceless!

And I've been having trouble with the typos as well, I even thought it was my phone and ran an update, it's a bit better now but there are still times when I type and it comes out as gobbledegook. 

I read voraciously as well, Clara, I can lose myself in a book. Usually crime novels ( today I learned what a Glasgow Smile is.)  

Having gone through most of the over-the-counter remedies for sore mouths ( Difflam, Anbesol, Hydrocortisone pellets) without success I am going to try some Orabase Paste - the sore place is getting bigger and I can't keep the mouth guards in all night, they drive me mad .


Sending best wishes your way Clara, and as Raz said, keep in touch. Or rouch even!! ( Sorry Raz I couldn't resist!) 




Tongue Biopsy. Waiting on results

16 Feb 2019 22:11 in response to BengalKitty

Hi Bengal kitty

glad I made you lol ! It’s a priceless one I have to agree with !

re sore mouth my oncologist wouldn’t prescribe anything apart from a saline solution of 9gram of salt in a litre of water ,he didn’t believe in any if the propriety ones just the old fashioned ones .He prescribed gelclair for ulcers that was all .

have you tried baking powder one teaspoon to a cup of like warm water ?


your attempt at misspelling nearly as good as mine  lol


Hazel aka RadioactiveRaz x


Tongue Biopsy. Waiting on results

17 Feb 2019 15:54 in response to RadioactiveRaz

Hi Hazel.

I came across a couple of interesting things on USA cancer survivors network.

Magic mouthwash isnt really a marketed product as such its a recipe of 3 items lidnocaine,gaviscon type of product and benadryl. Docs write a prescription as lidnocaine is po and pharmasist mixes it up into a mouthwash. An antibiotic for thrush can be added.

Other interesting item was: An oncologist gave a bit of advice to a patient regarding loss of taste, he said to rinse tongue once a day with one teaspoon of sesami seed oil for two weeks. Patients wife wrote that he was beginging to taste some things within 2days and could taste most things within 2weeks and was enjoying food. I am assuming this was post treatment as you couldnt have an oily mouth during radio.


I did warn you Im an avid reader Happy

Tongue Biopsy. Waiting on results

17 Feb 2019 21:27 in response to clara56

Hi Clara

i also love to read ,was on a cancer USA blog last night as well !

still wouldn’t have got magic mouthwash prescribed oncologist really didn’t want us putting anything in our mouths throats has like he said anyndlares ups he knew what we weee taking as opposed to lots of different things. 

I never lostbtastebsomwas lucky in that respect have heard tomhelpmwith lackmofbsaliva swirl olive oil round the mouth dontbgancy that though. Lol

keep in touch Hazsl x

Tongue Biopsy. Waiting on results

17 Feb 2019 23:45 in response to RadioactiveRaz

  Hahahahaaa Raz dont even try to fix these typos they are fantastic!! just read this message out loud to my husband oh what a laugh!! and we all need a laugh together! best wishes to you all xo D.

Tongue Biopsy. Waiting on results

18 Feb 2019 07:47 in response to demc

Well They always say Laughter is the Best Medicine - carry on Razzing! Reminds me of the time I  messaged my  friend saying Will you come and see Fantastic Breasts and Where To Find Them - she thought I was inviting her to a dirty movie! . Laugh Laugh 

Maybe I should get rid of the predictive texting .....

Tongue Biopsy. Waiting on results

18 Feb 2019 09:51 in response to BengalKitty

Hi ladies love the new moniker razzing !!!!M!LOL. 

i said to daughter the other day I thunk I will write  a book  she retorted quickly hope u get a good deal mum co unwill need a dammed good proof reader to rev write your typos !!!!!!!!Cheeky

yep laughter us the best policy


h x 

Tongue Biopsy. Waiting on results

18 Feb 2019 22:16 in response to RadioactiveRaz

Thanks for the suggestions for mouth washes by the way - I'm sure I have some sodium bicarbonate stashed away somewhere from when I used to watch that weird house cleaning programme with Aggie and What's Her Name - memory is shot these days...

But the Orabase paste is helping, except that my tongue now seems to be cemented to the side of my mouth. Reminds me of the time when James was about 9 or 10, I took him to the dentist for a check up and unbeknownst to me,he had picked up a free sample of what he thought was toothpaste and had rubbed it on his teeth. On the way back to the car, he started making these strange strangled- sounding noises - turned out it was Poligrip denture fixative and his upper and lower jaws were bonded together. Being a good mother, I couldn't do anything for laughing, poor boy is probably emotionally scarred for life now...

Tongue Biopsy. Waiting on results

18 Feb 2019 22:37 in response to BengalKitty

Oops kids bless em. 

Baking powder is slightly less dizzy than bi carb ofvsosa as well so try that. 


Made me laugh re polident  , I liken my mouth and saliva at the  momemt t to having a  tube if super glue permanently in my mouth and trying to shove food through it is tiring. 

But roll onnFriday byhe car n us are going to spain for our 10 week trip along with lotions and potions Ensure drinks just in case bottles of  if water for the journey ,hoping to get out in bike and that saliva makes a remarkable comeback .I will  be online still,checking so keep uo the questions .

where in treatment are you kitty 


Tongue Biopsy. Waiting on results

18 Feb 2019 22:58 in response to RadioactiveRaz

I had a tongue biopsy as I'd had a sore on the side of my tongue for 4 weeks, Razz, and the pain was horrendous,the caresheet from the Hospital said to  expect some mild pain and discomfort- !! So I  googled Pain After Tongue biopsy and it led me to this Forum where I found some wonderful support while I was waiting for the results.

And then D day came - and it showed no signs of malignancy.  But the Dr couldn't sign me off as the area is just not healing and he asked me to come back in 6 weeks.

So  really I have no right to be here any  more, but the kind people on here said I should still let them know how I get on so I am still here and still getting great advice about how to deal with the soreness.

I am just blown away by how generous and kind people are, no self-pity despite the awful things they are going through. Wish I had a magic wand....

Tongue Biopsy. Waiting on results

19 Feb 2019 13:50 in response to BengalKitty

Hi of course you do have a right,plus you give us a laugh when needed keep it up


Tongue Biopsy. Waiting on results

19 Feb 2019 15:59 in response to RadioactiveRaz

Hi Hazel

So glad you agree that Kitty should be here Happy Her experience of a very painfull biopsy is going to help others that are experiencing the same. My first two biopsies were fine so Im no help to anyone coming here for advice unless they`ve had a palate biopsy as my 3rd one was.

Ive been waiting for hospital letter for pre op check. They phoned today to confirm admission next week so the clock is tickingCry

Are you all packed and ready? Bikini, shorts, T Shirts!

Tongue Biopsy. Waiting on results

19 Feb 2019 16:50 in response to clara56

Hi Clara 

more like Lycra and factor 50 is packed!! We try to cycle most days but under no illusion that I will be doing 50/75 km will settle for a steady 30 km   Factor 50 as radiotherapy caused my neck to have 3 rd degree burn so likeca baby skin.  Just pondering Wether a burka might be in orders!!! Only joking  just going to use false tan and sit in the shade will cover up as  much as I csn. Wil post photos on blog. 

Must  agree ee kitty can give useful feedback. Anyway good luck for next week k baby steps take it one day at a time  keep in touch 




Tongue Biopsy. Waiting on results

19 Feb 2019 21:31 in response to RadioactiveRaz

Clara, was speed reading and just saw Packed - Bikini, shorts and T shirts and for a moment thought this was your packing list for your surgery - blimey, I thought,  you must be having it done privately!!

Have an amazing time, Raz, and bring back the yellow jersey ( sorry, hubby is well into the Tour De France! )

It's a pity that you can't post personal pictures on here as the thought of Raz in a burka....

The Orabase paste seems to be doing the trick, far better a layer  of that  than those  pesky silicone mouth guards. A bit tricky during the day as its difficult to talk with my tongue welded to the side of my mouth, but at least my work colleagues seem grateful for the ( temporary) respite!




Tongue Biopsy. Waiting on results

19 Feb 2019 21:59 in response to BengalKitty


so at e are well,into cycle races  as well ! Watching tour of  oman at min , looking forward to  giro Tour of Yorkshire’s the classics the list goes on. Maybe if you send me a friend request then we can swop emails then I can send photo .  Same applies to Clara is she wishes 

Re nitbtalking I didn’t loose my voice but already orpeares with an app for ohi e that I typed into it and could choose voice posh bird or cockney twang etc Jihn the hubby wasn’t getting off that lightly !  Think it w as called speak , yiu can surprise the girls at work .

Tongue Biopsy. Waiting on results

20 Feb 2019 15:49 in response to BengalKitty

Hi Kitty.   Private!!!! I wish. I would have been in and out by now :-)) Me in a bikini I think the fashion police would be after me.

I wish I had known about the orabase paste, would it stick to palate do you think?

A story in papers yesterday about a woman from London having tongue cancer and story went on to describe her glossectomy etc with photos. There is a news feed on FB and people can leave comments, some comments were quite sick and obscene my daughter wouldnt let me see them. Not that I am delicate, she felt it was so awful they should have closed the comments down. Shocking to say the least!



Tongue Biopsy. Waiting on results

20 Feb 2019 21:20 in response to clara56

HinKitty and Clara

i really don’t care seeing as I’ve lost 2 stone flaunted body before so deffowillmagain ok plastered in false tan and factor 50 sat under a brolly but will give it a go. Lol

nit seen the facebook,posting but it’s surprising whatbcomments I do get inhas a lady in densities whike inhas feeding Ruben In clearly talking about me and not to me about how I shouldn’t be out with one of those in. She wasn’t young either at least 75 and should have known better. It was as if I wasn’t invisible!


h x

Tongue Biopsy. Waiting on results

20 Feb 2019 22:16 in response to RadioactiveRaz

Hi Hazel

You go for it girl ! I have been keeping weight up just in case. Well thats my excuse for ice cream, cakes and everything else. Not eating well last few weeks has made me obsessed with food.

I have relatives 70+ and yes they have foot in mouth, think they can say whatever comes into their minds. Brother-in-law said to me today "your only getting a bit off your tongue" I ended the phone call quick. I am still boiling mad hours later.

I had a mammogram done last week,wish I had`nt now. I got a re-call letter to go for more tests at breast clinic next week. I don`t think I will I`ve got enough on next week.

Any room in your car boot for a runaway.PS ive got a passportWink   xx

Tongue Biopsy. Waiting on results

20 Feb 2019 22:22 in response to clara56

DHi Clara 

omg it never rain s but it pours ! I had my mammogram the day after I got my diagnosis I ended up consoling the nurse as when it got to then has any medical,changes happened since last one I started telling her and obviously she knew what was coming for me and broke into tears ! 

Sure you will be fine it’s not  unusual nowday for the scans to show things that aren’t really there think you should go if yiubcan otherwise it will be in your mind  ring uo and explain see if they can tell you any more over phone 

ok can squeeze you in will,pick u uo Friday !

oh yes a lot of insensitive people aeound


h. Keep in touch will be checking in whilst away can’t let my flock carry in without me. Lol




h x